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Don't Build Slop (4 Levels of AI Agent Maturity) - Ara Khan, Cline
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Transcript
243 cues· 3,558 words· 18,151 chars
- 0:15 Hi there.
- 0:17 Very nice to see you guys.
- 0:20 It's so interesting to see.
- 0:22 It's been such a long day, and you guys still showed up.
- 0:24 And I'm always very flattered when I'm trying to present something, and people are there.
- 0:30 It makes you feel like what you do matters.
- 0:33 So today, the topic that I want to talk about is don't belt slop four levels of AI agent maturity.
- 0:39 And what I'm trying to do here is that I'm going to talk about something that a lot of people brought this up to me.
- 0:44 And there's a mass psychosis problem.
- 0:46 So basically, it's something like this.
- 0:48 Every person feels like there's this giant set of robots around all of you.
- 0:54 They're just breezing through, doing a lot of things.
- 0:59 And you're in the middle, and you're so confused.
- 1:01 You're so confused of what should I do?
- 1:04 Should I have 15 agents ripping through all the time, and I'm just vibing?
- 1:10 Or should I just be a peasant and just read through every line of code?
- 1:14 And it's very hard to make up your mind.
- 1:17 I feel like you come to a place like this, and you're always like, the FOMO just gets to you.
- 1:21 You get a panic attack or something.
- 1:22 But I kind of want to pull back out of this.
- 1:26 And I want to be like, guys, let's slow down.
- 1:28 Let's just slow down.
- 1:29 And let's think through what are the problems that we can actually solve that will actually help you build really useful agents.
- 1:36 And I want to take care of every end of the spectrum of your necessity to build things really fast, but at the same time, your necessity to, at a certain point, build things slow and take things to production.
- 1:47 So that's basically the goal.
- 1:49 To give an example of mass psychosis, there's a lot of things that are very similar.
- 1:53 So I'll give you an example of three UIs.
- 1:56 And these are three frontier labs.
- 1:58 And I guarantee you, not one of you can predict which one is which.
- 2:01 One of them is Factory.
- 2:02 One of them is Codex.
- 2:03 And one of them is Cursor.
- 2:05 I am positive none of you know which one is which.
- 2:08 Even I don't know which one is which.
- 2:10 But yeah, so that's basically the point.
- 2:11 Everything is the same.
- 2:12 You want to do your own thing.
- 2:13 So to build agents in particular, here's what I would present here, that I want to break down the problem of building agents into four different parts.
- 2:23 The first part is just trying to somehow figure out a way to see if this even makes sense, like this even works.
- 2:30 That's where you use a framework.
- 2:31 The second part is when you actually are serious, like, OK, I actually want to do something here.
- 2:36 Now you build things by yourself as a state machine, like building an actual agent.
- 2:40 The third part is the UX workflow, where you use Kanban, which I suggest is a great form factor to be able to work with agents.
- 2:48 And the fourth part would be shipping to cloud.
- 2:50 So this is mostly an outline read of how we want to be able to work with agents.
- 2:55 But I think it will give you a good heuristics of how you would solve this problem.
- 3:00 So level one of building agents is literally just use a framework.
- 3:04 And I think there's a couple of different frameworks, like link chain, link graph.
- 3:09 I don't use them.
- 3:11 I work at client.
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Chapters
- 0:00 Introduction: Addressing the "mass psychosis" of agent-building
- 2:13 The Four Levels of Agent Maturity overview
- 3:00 Level 1: Using existing agent frameworks
- 4:13 Level 2: Building your own agents (with five rules)
- 4:36 Rule 1: View every agent as a state machine
- 5:55 Rule 2: Keep it simple (Avoid unnecessary system prompt bloat)
- 7:20 Rule 3: Integrate with a CLI for a pseudo-RL pipeline
- 8:43 Rule 4: Don't build "slop" (Focus on thoughtful architecture)
- 9:43 Rule 5: Master frontier model APIs (Reasoning traces)
- 11:03 The UX form factor: Why Kanban boards are best for agents
- 13:12 Shipping to the cloud for scalability
- 17:15 Q&A session: Planning and state transitions in Kanban