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Beyond Components: Designing Generative UI for MCP Apps — Ruben Casas, Postman

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AI Engineer· published 2026-06-03· 0:16:58· en-US· indexed 2026-08-10 19:45

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Transcript

170 cues· 2,486 words· 13,350 chars

  1. 0:16 Hello, everybody.
  2. 0:16 So I know I am the person standing between you and your lunch, but this is going to be a very interesting talk that combines the previous two talks into the future.
  3. 0:27 And that's what I want to talk about today.
  4. 0:29 So back in November 2022, what we used to do was we used to go to Charge EPT and ask Charge EPT to create a component and we would just copy
  5. 0:40 paste, you had to ask reply in code blocks, then again, fix it, repeat.
  6. 0:46 And this is what I call the poor man's byte coding.
  7. 0:50 And we have come a long way.
  8. 0:53 It kind of worked.
  9. 0:56 It was very exciting.
  10. 0:57 You could get models who could actually build some UI for you.
  11. 1:03 And surely, that was not going to write better code than me, right?
  12. 1:07 And then things improved very, very rapidly, very, very fast.
  13. 1:12 What happened last year, and if you are aware what happened in the last months of 2025, was this acceleration, an incredible inflection point where things changed.
  14. 1:24 And it will go down in the history books as things changed very fast all at once.
  15. 1:30 And this is in part because of the release of two very important models, which were 5.2, sorry, it was, yeah, GPT 5.2 and Opus 4.5.
  16. 1:42 And they were not just very good at most of the tasks, long horizon tasks.
  17. 1:48 They were also very good at high fidelity UI generation.
  18. 1:53 And they were producing very good working UI, sometimes thoughtful, sometimes really, really good, and also very fast.
  19. 2:05 Now, I experienced this when I tried one of these models, tried to rewrite my blog.
  20. 2:10 I know people have used this in more creative ways, but I just tried a single prompt, rewrite my blog.
  21. 2:16 And then he did this, which I didn't ask for.
  22. 2:19 He created a nice search box with a blur animation with accessibility out of the box.
  23. 2:27 And then that's when I realised that in the space of three years from when ChartGPT was released to today, we went from, you know, a few lines of code is great, it runs, oh, it now can write better front-end code than me.
  24. 2:49 And, you know, I don't mind.
  25. 2:51 No ego.
  26. 2:54 It's just reality.
  27. 2:55 So here's a question.
  28. 2:56 If these models are so good at writing UI code, why are we still stuck in this mainly old paradigm of mostly static UI?
  29. 3:08 And where is that Jarvis moment that we've been talking about earlier?
  30. 3:13 Where are my floating UI windows that appear and disappear?
  31. 3:17 And why are we not there yet?
  32. 3:19 So my name is Ruben Casas.
  33. 3:20 I am a staff engineer at Postman.
  34. 3:22 And I've been looking at UI and generative UI for the past year.
  35. 3:26 And I've been working with MCP apps as well.
  36. 3:28 And today, I want to show you what we're doing today and where we're going in the future.
  37. 3:33 So the news are we have a new computer.
  38. 3:37 And as Andrew Capathy put it, interacting with this new computer is like talking to the terminal.
  39. 3:43 You have direct access to this operating system.
  40. 3:47 And the GUI has not been invented yet.
  41. 3:48 It's like we are in the 70s, where everything was just text.
  42. 3:52 And we have a super intelligence, but we don't have a mature interface language.
  43. 3:57 And today, we are still trying to figure out what is this new interface for this computer.
  44. 4:05 And people ask, is it chat?
  45. 4:07 I'll show you what we're doing today.
  46. 4:08 And actually, this was a very recent tweet last week, where people were complaining that most SaaS companies have been adding chat to their home pages, and everybody's just putting chat everywhere.
  47. 4:21 And that's fine.
  48. 4:22 I don't have a problem with chat.
  49. 4:25 It's not the final UI.
  50. 4:27 It's OK for now.

Chapters

  1. 0:00 Introduction: The evolution from 'poor man's bit coding' to high-fidelity UI generation
  2. 2:56 Why are we still stuck with static UI?
  3. 3:33 The new computer: Searching for the interface of the future
  4. 4:47 The role of MCP apps and 'Super Apps'
  5. 5:52 Three levels of UI generation: Static, Declarative, and Generative
  6. 6:03 Understanding Static UI components (e.g., AG UI, Goose)
  7. 7:42 The benefits of Declarative UI (e.g., JSON/YAML renderers)
  8. 10:06 Moving to the next level: Generative UI components
  9. 11:25 The challenge of trust: The need for sandboxing and containment
  10. 12:22 Why MCP apps are the ideal delivery mechanism for Generative UI
  11. 13:21 The 'TV/Radio' analogy: Imagining the future of agent interaction
  12. 14:46 Beyond components: Towards true human-agent collaboration
  13. 16:16 Conclusion: Shaping the future of user interfaces

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