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Agents Don't Do Standups: Building the Post-Engineer Engineering Org — Mike Spitz, PFF
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Transcript
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- 0:15 All right, so I am in the slot before the snacks.
- 0:19 But I'm here to speak about the post-engineering org and a case study we've been doing at PFF.
- 0:26 Started in January and we finished it in March.
- 0:29 PFF is a sports data company.
- 0:31 We help NFL and NCAA teams figure out what they should be doing.
- 0:37 And we also have a consumer arm which does fantasy football
- 0:43 Sport betting, and for those of you who know American football, there's a draft happening end of the month, and so it allows people to basically play as one of these teams.
- 0:52 We're a fully distributed engineering team, so we've got engineers in India, we've got engineers in Spain, and all the states in America.
- 1:01 But first let's go into some kind of stats.
- 1:04 So we have 100 million page views annually.
- 1:07 We have nine million drafts happen on an annual basis.
- 1:10 It's a fairly popular tool.
- 1:14 And the issue that we had was we were 200 employees, around 20 engineers.
- 1:20 And we were falling behind competitors.
- 1:24 We were focusing on some sport betting stuff, but a lot of our consumers were actually interested in this.
- 1:29 And then with Cloud Opus coming out, I started experimenting around November on a personal level.
- 1:36 And then it got spun out to two engineers.
- 1:40 One of them was our strongest front-end engineer, and the other one was one of our strongest full-stack engineer.
- 1:48 So really, the question I was asking was, instead of figuring out how we can help engineers go and output more, how do we help make the agents quicker?
- 2:00 So I think if we all think, historically, software engineering, you've got the agile manifesto, software craftsmanship.
- 2:08 You've got a lot of good perks and benefits for engineers, from foosball tables to sleeping pods to pretty much every perk that most other industries really don't have.
- 2:17 And it's because we're the bottleneck.
- 2:19 And if companies are able to go and optimize for that, it gives them a lot of benefit.
- 2:24 But now things are changing.
- 2:27 So I just want to go straight into how the case study ended up.
- 2:30 So we had 25 times more deploys.
- 2:32 So the two engineers were deploying five times
- 2:40 five times every, we're deploying five times every day.
- 2:44 And the other team was a team of around 10 engineers.
- 2:47 They're doing it pretty much one deploy every five days.
- 2:51 There is a big obvious caveat here, right?
- 2:52 Small engineering teams are always gonna be quicker than the big ones.
- 2:56 So there is an element of that multiplier that is just from it being a small engineering team.
- 3:02 However, that smaller Tiger team still had to coordinate all of those daily, still had to go and coordinate all of those deploys with the bigger team, so there was still that kind of issue that was happening.
- 3:16 And this one, this is always hard, how do you validate like the output is actually helpful, the number of PRs isn't helpful, the amount of code isn't helpful.
- 3:24 So we basically blended the number of tickets with the code complexity, and we found that their output was 10x.
- 3:35 Got another slide which might look a little bit hectic, but just bear with me.
- 3:40 So these are the features that we went and constructed with those two engineers that took them under a two month.
- 3:47 If we're gonna do this before, we're estimating it's gonna take four months.
- 3:52 The big thing you can probably have a look in the top half is one of the engineers gets unblocked in under a month and can then start building other stuff.
- 4:01 Whereas in the old way, they're both blocked for three months.
- 4:05 And so you get this thing where you now have a compounding increase where it's not just faster for that stuff, but you're now able to do a lot more stuff than you were able to do before.
- 4:17 And the one thing that I really want to go and basically go and highlight is it doesn't matter if the output's more.
- 4:24 It doesn't matter if the number of deployments are higher.
- 4:27 What really matters is basically if the customers are happy.
- 4:32 And so we did statistically significant surveys, and the average quality score was 8.6 out of 10.
- 4:41 What was interesting was before AI, we would probably average seven, seven and a half.
- 4:47 So we weren't really delivering what the customers had been interested in.
- 4:53 So...
- 4:55 Scrum did not survive we were we were basically having a look not just on an engineering front and all of the delivery gains from that but also from a process standpoint and so
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- 0:00 Introduction to the case study at PFF
- 1:47 The shift: optimizing for agent speed rather than engineer speed
- 2:28 Results: 25x increase in deployment frequency
- 3:16 Measuring success through ticket complexity and customer satisfaction
- 4:53 Dismantling Scrum and traditional development processes
- 5:58 The new development workflow (Spec → LDD → Ticket → PR)
- 6:51 Eliminating coordination overhead (no sprint planning or standups)
- 8:28 Best practices for implementation and team selection
- 10:09 Utilizing agents for deterministic tasks and code reviews
- 12:00 Viewing the engineering lifecycle as a factory
- 13:06 Automated QA and the future of self-healing systems
- 14:10 Where human oversight remains essential
- 14:48 Strategic advice for scaling AI-driven engineering